puki Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 BC i Meister su za nivo iznad od D2 K-sport i sl. Ali koliko znam sama proizvodja Meister je kod kosookih. Dizajn, sklapanje i pakiranje moguce u UK. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk kad pogledas detalje i dijelove nema razlike.. tako da je vjerojatno vecina copy paste kod slaganja tih ovjesa, ručno se u UK sigurno ne slažu, možda pakiraju.. kolko para tolko muzike, vecina ce biti prezadovoljna sa time, ali ja bih ipak isao na nesto kvalitetnije da sam vec zabio pozamašnu svotu u auto.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) BC i Meister su za nivo iznad od D2 K-sport i sl. Ali koliko znam sama proizvodja Meister je kod kosookih. Dizajn, sklapanje i pakiranje moguce u UK. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk One thing I will however point out is that MeisterR are not cheap Chinese stuff with a different colour and a nice stickers, because we are one of the few brand that actually have our own workshop, research & development, and manufacturing capability in the UK. Even for the entry level ZetaCRD, the internal valving specification are designed by us. We engineered the internal valving specification in house at our workshop in Essex along with our in-house technical partner Black Art Design (BAD). The internal valving are unique to MeisterR, all information disclosed to our production are protected under a non-disclosure agreement. What that mean is even the factory's own product could not use our data, and therefore you will not find another suspension on the market with the same specs as MeisterR. The ZetaCRD use thicker damper Shafter compare to most dampers on the market, and thus create a stronger damper unit. Even something as simple as our locking collars were engineered by us and is currently under a UK patent pending status As far as the GT1 goes, we use a lot of CNC internal parts that are engineered and machined in house. The CNC damper shaft seal we use on the GT1 are rated to 400 bars of pressure (a typical damper would not exceed 40 bars). You can call up AST, Nitron, Penske, Moton, and see who actually use such high quality CNC shaft seals, and I can say most of them won't. The only company I can think of that use CNC shaft seal is some of the top end rally suspension such as Reiger. The GT1 also comes with a custom made progressive rate bump stop. This bump stop are designed to mechanically crush and then materially crush. The starting rate is 6lbf and goes up to 400lbf over 70% of it's crush travel; that mean you can engage your bump stop and not even know it. All this is to create a better ride quality and vehicle dynamics over other suspension. While I do understand that there have been MANY suspension brands on the market that honestly have no clue about suspension, as they just buy what is available from a factory and put a sticker on with pretty colour. MeisterR is an exception to that rule, because we actually design our specification and get factory to manufacture what we engineered. Many suspension can look similar to MeisterR on the outside, but the inside as well as the performance is guarantee to be different. Just thought I put up some info to clear the cloud, as we put in a lot more work to our suspension than just pick a pretty colour and print a nice looking sticker. Jerrick kad pogledas detalje i dijelove nema razlike.. tako da je vjerojatno vecina copy paste kod slaganja tih ovjesa, ručno se u UK sigurno ne slažu, možda pakiraju.. kolko para tolko muzike, vecina ce biti prezadovoljna sa time, ali ja bih ipak isao na nesto kvalitetnije da sam vec zabio pozamašnu svotu u auto.. Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Edited February 3, 2017 by Snjur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovre Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 One thing I will however point out is that MeisterR are not cheap Chinese stuff with a different colour and a nice stickers, because we are one of the few brand that actually have our own workshop, research & development, and manufacturing capability in the UK. Even for the entry level ZetaCRD, the internal valving specification are designed by us. We engineered the internal valving specification in house at our workshop in Essex along with our in-house technical partner Black Art Design (BAD). The internal valving are unique to MeisterR, all information disclosed to our production are protected under a non-disclosure agreement. What that mean is even the factory's own product could not use our data, and therefore you will not find another suspension on the market with the same specs as MeisterR. The ZetaCRD use thicker damper Shafter compare to most dampers on the market, and thus create a stronger damper unit. Even something as simple as our locking collars were engineered by us and is currently under a UK patent pending status As far as the GT1 goes, we use a lot of CNC internal parts that are engineered and machined in house. The CNC damper shaft seal we use on the GT1 are rated to 400 bars of pressure (a typical damper would not exceed 40 bars). You can call up AST, Nitron, Penske, Moton, and see who actually use such high quality CNC shaft seals, and I can say most of them won't. The only company I can think of that use CNC shaft seal is some of the top end rally suspension such as Reiger. The GT1 also comes with a custom made progressive rate bump stop. This bump stop are designed to mechanically crush and then materially crush. The starting rate is 6lbf and goes up to 400lbf over 70% of it's crush travel; that mean you can engage your bump stop and not even know it. All this is to create a better ride quality and vehicle dynamics over other suspension. While I do understand that there have been MANY suspension brands on the market that honestly have no clue about suspension, as they just buy what is available from a factory and put a sticker on with pretty colour. MeisterR is an exception to that rule, because we actually design our specification and get factory to manufacture what we engineered. Many suspension can look similar to MeisterR on the outside, but the inside as well as the performance is guarantee to be different. Just thought I put up some info to clear the cloud, as we put in a lot more work to our suspension than just pick a pretty colour and print a nice looking sticker. Jerrick Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Primjetit ces kako nigdi ne pise da se proizvode u UK. Prosjecnog consumera zavara, nekog ko zna sta cita tesko. Dio dizajna je vjerovatno njihov, mozda i neki djelovi, proizvodnja ne pise di je ali mozemo pretpostavit. Na kraju nije ni bitno di je. Gleda sam testove i proizvod je dobar i mislim da bitno bolji od generickih kineza. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Primjetit ces kako nigdi ne pise da se proizvode u UK. Prosjecnog consumera zavara, nekog ko zna sta cita tesko. Dio dizajna je vjerovatno njihov, mozda i neki djelovi, proizvodnja ne pise di je ali mozemo pretpostavit. Na kraju nije ni bitno di je. Gleda sam testove i proizvod je dobar i mislim da bitno bolji od generickih kineza. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Javim sta kažu bas sam pisa liku. Obzirom da sam ima Kw3 budem dao realnu ocjenu, ne bude mi problem pojest govno ? Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puki Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Javim sta kažu bas sam pisa liku. Obzirom da sam ima Kw3 budem dao realnu ocjenu, ne bude mi problem pojest govno �� Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk lega ako bolje pročitas kako ti i Lovre kaže, piše da je dizajn UK Essex, što je apsolutno zavaravanje kupaca i to je kosooki proizvod koliko god oni to negirali.. možda su ventili malo drugačije posloženi (imaju njihovu specifikaciju) ali to je u biti to, nadam se da češ biti zadovoljan jer sa D2 i K-sport sigurno ti ne bude bio top nakon KWv3 Edited February 3, 2017 by puki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Primjetit ces kako nigdi ne pise da se proizvode u UK. Prosjecnog consumera zavara, nekog ko zna sta cita tesko. Dio dizajna je vjerovatno njihov, mozda i neki djelovi, proizvodnja ne pise di je ali mozemo pretpostavit. Na kraju nije ni bitno di je. Gleda sam testove i proizvod je dobar i mislim da bitno bolji od generickih kineza. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk lega ako bolje pročitas kako ti i Lovre kaže, piše da je dizajn UK Essex, što je apsolutno zavaravanje kupaca i to je kosooki proizvod koliko god oni to negirali.. možda su ventili malo drugačije posloženi (imaju njihovu specifikaciju) ali to je u biti to, nadam se da češ biti zadovoljan jer sa D2 i K-sport sigurno ti ne bude bio top nakon KWv3 Ako laže covo lažem ja. Stavljam screen shoot da ne bi bilo da Šta prepravljam Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Evo kaže da ubacim još ovo Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miataoldschool Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 ^^prema navedenom gore ostale su rijeci suvisne..al najbolja ocjena bu od sjnura..svakako cekam review:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Snjur a ti se isto daš naje*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Snjur a ti se isto daš naje*** I to što kažeš ? Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabre Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 jesu skuplje ili jeftinije od KW? gdje provode testiranja? To neka nova firma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor6767 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Baš kvalitetna rasprava. Argumentirana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy_R Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Zna li se koja je tvrdoća opruga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor6767 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Super je za vidjeti ovakav CRM. Vidi se da su manufaktura i da im je stalo do stranaka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomica93 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Mislim da i sam odabires tvrdocu opruga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Zna li se koja je tvrdoća opruga? Imaš više. Manje vise ti oni stavljaju koja ide za auto za koji su namjenjene. Pošalješ liku mail ja mu se divim koliko ima strpljenja svima odgovarat slat slike grafove testove. Pročita jesam da je lik ne znam na Eva ili Gtr-a tia neke druge spec opruge pa mu je ovaj to potkrijepia zašto da ne i to. Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor6767 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Koliko € su gewinde te njihove? Nešto u rangu Clubsporta npr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Koliko € su gewinde te njihove? Nešto u rangu Clubsporta npr? Ja sam ih dobio za 1295 gbp + shipping. Inače su 1695 gbp. A ekipi koja ima stariji model te Zeta otkupljuju stare za 40% ili 50% cijene koliko su platili ako žele ići na GT1 Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Edited February 3, 2017 by Snjur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor6767 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 To je gotovo 50% jeftinije od KW-a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Dobrih mjesec dana čitam o njima, jer zacrta sam prvenstveno uzet Tein Monosport. Pa sam naletia na ovo na UK forumu gdje je frajer tražia gewinde između Bilstein B16 Kw3 i Tein. Tako da se ubacia u raspravu ovaj Jerrick s GT1. Tu se naša neki koji je počea isto da su kineske gewinde da, copy paste. Ovaj Jerrick mu je na svako pitanje odgovoria, stavlja grafove, rezultate slike, proces izrade razvoja zašto kako. Nebitno znaci frajer bavi se samo s tim zna o čemu priča. I onda pocem tražit citat okolo pa vidiš sve to opet na GTR forumu, Honda forumu, Evo forum. Stalno se sreće s podcjenjivanjem opet iz početka sve objaanjavaj. Lik ima bome dobre živce. Počea tražit malo review od drugih ljudi sta su stavljali to na fensi auta, većina drift auta u UK je na njima i eto nije mi tribalo puno da se odlučim. Imaju super individualni pristup, svako pitanje ti odgovore u roku odmah potkrijepe slikama sta već treba. Life time warranty. Mislim da se isplati probati jer nisam naša nigdje niti jednu jedinu zamjerku da je neko napisa Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Ili ako koga zanima da ja nisam advokat frejer je iz engleske, nek ga se rega i neka sam predstavi proizvode i odgovara na vaša pitanja. Ionako je na brdo foruma uključen Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Edited February 3, 2017 by Snjur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovre Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 To je gotovo 50% jeftinije od KW-a. Meni za S-a su cca 20% jeftiniji od KW... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovre Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Customer service im je jak i samo zato bi ih sad uzea prije KW, al jebat ga KW vec imam al ne planiram uzimat opet bas zbog tog service / support koji je prilicno los. Inace sta se tice ovih stvari, vjerujem da su amortizeri dobri i da su napravili dosta custom stvari na njima i da nama tu rekreativcima ne triba bolje. Najveca nauka nije uopce u ovim klipovima i sipkama nego u ventilima. KW svaki amortizer testira odvojeno na dyno i svaki set se matchira da je lijevi i desni isti bez odstupanja. Bitne stvari su i kako se amortizer ponasa s promjenom temperarure tu su upravo ventili bitni. Kako god moje misljenje je da i dalje ovo ne moze ici kvalitetom i performance u istu klasu ko kw, ohlins i sl... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 Valjalo bi regat frajera pa neka sam predstavi proizvod tu i odgovara na tehnička pitanja Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pekx Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Nije problem, pitaj ga slobodno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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