Duma Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Sauber C30 Mercedes MGP W02 Team Lotus T128 Lotus Renault GP R31 Ferrari F150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomiTraktor Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 malo su cudni bolidi ove godine, jesu ih oni to jos suzili ili mi se cini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msporis Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 krila su narasla pa ti se valjda čini... a stražnje je pomično od ove godine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomiTraktor Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 koji dio je tocno pomican? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meshin Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 malo su cudni bolidi ove godine, jesu ih oni to jos suzili ili mi se cini? Da, izgleda da je trag kotača isti kao prije, ali "šasija" je uža od traga kotača.. Plus manje je spojlera po šasiji i uži je stražnji. Baš čudno izgleda.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msporis Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 stražnji nije uži nego duži :thumbsup: zato da se može montirat sustav za pomicanje krila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tochka Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 lotus lada hehehehe i bolidi su ruzni i to jako Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msporis Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 koji dio je tocno pomican? Stražnje dio smije mjenjati kut na tijekom treninga i kvalifikacija. Na utrci ga smije mjenjati (smanjivati otpor i time povećati brzinu) samo kad je sekundu iza vozila koje želi preteći. Obzirom na to, pretpostavljam da se radi o središnjem dijelu krila, a ne ovim bočnim stranicama. Ima još promjena, ukinuta je zabrana timskih naredbi, vraćeno pravilo 107%, vraćen je KERS.... itd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomiTraktor Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Na utrci ga smije mjenjati (smanjivati otpor i time povećati brzinu) samo kad je sekundu iza vozila koje želi preteći. bas me zanima kako ce to kontrolirati i kako ce vozaci znati kada su 0,967 a kada 1,033 sekunde iza nekoga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msporis Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) Elektronski. Smijeti će to koristiti samo na određenim dijelovima staze (gdje će se mjeriti razmak), i ako može koristiti, zasvjetliti će mu lampica i moći će stisnuti gumb za promjenu kuta krila. Pretpostavljam da će biti napravljeno i tako da ak stisne kad ne smije, da se niš ne dogodi BTW totalna idiotarija jer stavlja onog ispred u nepovoljniji položaj, tj. ukida ravopravnost i daje onom iza prednost na ravnici. Naime, ovaj ispred ne smije mjenjat kut. Meni jedino nije jasno, uzevši u obzir da ovaj ispred ne smije mjenjat kut... kaj ak je kolona 3-4 vozila... dakle prvi ne smije, a svi ostali mogu? i onda taj prvi, kad ga pretekne drugi, odmah smije stisnut? mislim, wtf... Edited February 1, 2011 by msporis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alenp Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Izgledom se najvise promjenio mercedsov bolid, nije ni slican proslom. Renault FEE http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/02/01/renault-r31-front-exit-exhausts-fee-explained/ F1 150 Info, ima infoa i o polozaju motora, duplom difuzoru itd.. Ferrari F150 – Launch detail & Analysis Ferrari launched their F150 today in Maranello. While the car sports some interesting features, overall it must be seen as a conventional and literal approach to the new rules and carries the influence of the team’s two previous cars. This approach seems to suit Ferrari who has not worked well with extreme innovation in the past. They keep the car simple and gain the most potential from it. We can expect more extreme concept cars from several teams next week. Firstly the front wing is last years; it even has the driver adjustable mechanism which is no longer allowed in 2011. However the nose cone will be fairly definitive, as it needs to match the front of the chassis and being a homologated part, cannot be structurally changed during the season. This front wing may be on the car for the opening test runs, but we will soon see an interim 2011 wing before a final version appears for Bahrain. One by-product of the new rules restricting front chassis height is that a V-nose might not be desirable. As the height of the dash and front bulkheads are limited to a maximum height, the “V” nose might be inefficient. V-noses allowed more flow under the car without putting too much heavy structure high up. Now to maximise space under the nose we might see a return to the simpler rectangular chassis cross section, with the top edge at the 670mm limit, which creates the most space underneath. Thus the Ferrari has a near flat top and the line from the cockpit opening rises up 45mm from the dash to the front wheels. The section of chassis attaching the suspension (subjectively) appears to longer. As the drivers feet do not sit within this section of chassis, mechanical parts can be placed there. Ferrari appears to have placed the front torsion bars at an unusual angle, in a V pointed towards the front. Thus to remove the torsion bars they come out backwards via a hole just behind the upper wishbone (near the “R” of “Santander”). Access hatches on the top of the chassis allow access to the pedals, heave spring and GPS aerial. Otherwise the front wishbone arrangement appears conventional, with the steering rack placed lower than the upper wishbone for better CofG and steering arm geometry. Aero around the front end is largely carried over from 2010, with vanes hanging from the nose cone then larger bargeboards and pod wings mounted ahead of the sidepods. We can expect these to change in detail before Bahrain, Relatively simple mirrors are fitted and mated to a fin\vortex generator below. Similarly the roll hoop is a simple design, not as undercut as others. The sidepods themselves are an evolution of ideas from the past two years. The inlets have been made into a more distinct sideways “U” shape and the distinctive peak above the inlet is still there. This peak is now allied to a small removable panel, what this is for is not clear. As it appears the radiators are further back down the sidepod, following the same line as the break in the forward and rear section of sidepod bodywork. The panel might be for a cooling outlet, but perhaps for smaller oil\KERS coolers mounted alone in this area. The revised sidepod inlet creates a more aggressive undercut, although the sidepod has to be relatively wide (between the Shell and Acer logo) for the radiators to fit between the fuel tank and bodywork. Sidepods then sweep into a coke bottle shape with a generous hot air outlet at its tail, this rear opening also houses the exhausts that blow over the diffuser. The top body no longer sports a shark fin; a simple upstand is used in its place, although no doubt the fin may return in testing. As was raced last year the bodywork either side of the fin opens up to allow cooling. At the back the rear wing is a new departure for Ferrari, the entire wing is mounted to the central pylon, and then the beam wing spans the endplates and sits fully expose din the airflow. It’s been Ferrari practice to split the beam wing either side of the crash structure for many years. The top rear wing is new, with the mechanism to allow the wing to open the slot up apparently inside the wings supporting pylon. The curved bracket protruding from the pylon moves up and down, probably by hydraulics fed up from the gearbox, to alter the wings flap position. Its possible to see the how the flap pivots via pins set into the flap trailing edge. A distinct “V” has been cut into the flaps trailing edge, probably to reduce its effective geometry, as it sits in airflow obstructed by the engine cover and wing adjusting mechanism. With very few detailed of the diffuser, it appears its a very simple diffuser which echoes the single decker design Ferrari first raced with in 2009. No doubt the gurney, inner fences and boat tail will alter as the team gets more performance from the diffuser. Being careful not to read too much into the cars launch specification the front wheels appear to be based on the 2010 vaned versions. New rules specify a minimum surface area for spokes and other similar parts of the wheel. Perhaps the narrow spokes make up for the surface area taken up by the vanes. One item raised by Ferrari was their innovative suspension system, not the pull rod system that many expected, as the car boasts push rods at both ends. But Ferrari were rumoured around the pit lane to have run an interconnected suspension system last year. The front and rear suspension being linked to control the cars attitude. This could either be to control pitch (the nose rising or lowering through acceleration/braking) or warp (a mix of pitch and roll). Apparently used by Toyota and Williams without success in the past, this passive system could aid aerodynamics by keeping the underfloor in the correct attitude relative the track. As double diffusers are banned the advantage to inclining the engine and gearbox by 3-degrees is lost now, so we can expect the engine is again mounted horizontal. With engines frozen, the only changes are reliability alterations (with the FIA’s permission) or changes to accommodate KERS. Ferraris engine man Luca Marmorini announced more changes to the engines pneumatic valve system (PVRS). This area was changed after reliability problems last year in the early races. Marmorini, who came back to Ferrari from Toyota, is thought to have brought ideas for a more efficient PVRS system with him. Worth not only reliability, but a increase in performance through lower friction and less engine degradation over the course its 3-4 races. The KERS system places the MGU offset from the front of the crank and attached to the oil tank, as the unit is cooled by the engines oil. The oil tank is quite large and Ferrari are suggested to also run another tank above the clutch within the gearbox. The KERS battery pack is mounted inside the monocoque under the fuel tank (not within the actual tank and petrol!). As the batteries are denser than fuel this keeps a low CofG, already most teams have several centimeters of space under the fuel taken up by blocks of ballast, rising the fuel tank by an equal amount. One area Ferrari were clear that they have improved KERS on this year is the way the MGU charges when the car brakes. Marmorini stated this was improving the “dragging” of the system. Little word has been made on the gearbox, Ferrari have adopted a titanium skeleton with bonded on carbon fibre panels for several years. Aside from the packaging of the pushrod suspension, this is expected to be largely carried over this year. I vremena za prvi nesluzbeni trening. Unofficial Tuesday test times from Valencia: 1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:13.769, 93 Laps 2. Nico Hulkenberg, Force India, 1:13.938, 71 Laps 3. Gary Paffett, McLaren, 1:14.292, 91 Laps 4. Paul di Resta, Force India, 1:14.461, 28 Laps 5. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1:14.553, 98 Laps 6. Kamui Kobayashi, Sauber, 1:15.621, 64 Laps 7. Jerome D’Ambrosio, Virgin, 1:16.003, 71 Laps 8. Vitaly Petrov, Renault, 1:16.351, 28 Laps 9. Michael Schumacher, Mercedes GP, 1:16.450, 15 Laps 10. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 1:17.214, 19 Laps 11. Rubens Barrichello, Williams, 1:17.335, 77 Laps 12. Narain Karthikeyan, HRT, 1:18.020, 45 Laps 13. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes GP, 1:19.930, nine Laps Jedini bolid koji je ima problema je Mercedes u rukama Rosberga, nesto s hidraulikom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealth Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Ovi u Renaultu su ili genijalci ili su lupili glavom negdje, ovaj ispuh ili ce biti novost godine ili teski debakl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominik Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 koji dio je tocno pomican? sredisnji gornji dio, tj. onaj dio koji si rucno stelao prije svakog izlaza i na straznjem i na prednjem krilu al ja sam ti to radio samo 40tak puta na formuli F3 i cak imam i sve zapisano, logirano i rezultat nekakv na kraju, al kak ovi neki na forumu kazu, jebes to, imas ti sta konkretno :lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msporis Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) sredisnji gornji dio, tj. onaj dio koji si rucno stelao prije svakog izlaza i na straznjem i na prednjem krilu al ja sam ti to radio samo 40tak puta na formuli F3 i cak imam i sve zapisano, logirano i rezultat nekakv na kraju, al kak ovi neki na forumu kazu, jebes to, imas ti sta konkretno :lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Ništa ne prodajem , samo se hvalim :rofl: Koi lik :rofl: EDIT: BTW, da se ista stvar vidi i u akciji http://www.manipef1.com/news/articles/11855/ Edited February 2, 2011 by msporis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msporis Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Ili u videu http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/f1/f1-adjustable-rear-wings-how-they-work/ Edited February 2, 2011 by msporis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominik Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Ništa ne prodajem , samo se hvalim :rofl: Koi lik :rofl: EDIT: BTW, da se ista stvar vidi i u akciji http://www.manipef1.com/news/articles/11855/ upravo to, ali nisam ko neki pa da mi ti smetas i da te stalno prijavljujem moderatoru naprotiv, meni je ponekad jako zabavno s tobom se prepirati oko F1, bez obzira sto neznas nis :lol::lol:, al se trudis :P .................. to i potvrditi bez tebe bi svakako F1 teme bile dosadne :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msporis Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Da, obzirom da si svojim postom sada u biti potvrdio ono što sam ja rekao, onda oboje pojma nemamo. A za reportanjem neće bit potrebe kad sa načinom kuminkacije dođeš bar malo iznad razine Zdravka Mamića, ali dok si čak i ispod te razine... pusa bok Edited February 2, 2011 by msporis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominik Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 a tek rezultatima :lol::lol: i nije da ne cjenim tvoje :lol::lol::lol::lol:, pa cak i ekonomske , u racunici vise i manje 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xman Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 ovaj je jedino za to i dobar - pec rostilj na njemu http://www.net.hr/sport/page/2011/02/03/0700006.html?pos=n1 Sam nek tak nastave :thumbsup: I danas najbrzi Kubica http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/2/11707.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msporis Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 mater mu ovaj mercedes je opet prespavo zimu, bolid im kurca vrijedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xman Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 dobar ti je brk bratko :doh::doh::doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msporis Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 što je muškarac bez brkova? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alenp Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 mater mu ovaj mercedes je opet prespavo zimu, bolid im kurca vrijedi Ta testiranja ne govore nista pametno, jedan sutil je drugi s bolidom iz 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msporis Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 pusti ti to, da mogu, oni bi se na barem jednom od tri dana potrudili bit pri vrhu... oni čak nisu ni pri vrhu neg daleko dolje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZD1400RT Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 što je muškarac bez brkova? Janica Kostelić! mater mu ovaj mercedes je opet prespavo zimu, bolid im kurca vrijedi Iza ovakve izjave sigurno stoji neka temeljita analiza! Danas se otkriva McLaren, a svi najavljuju "nešto novo, nešto divlje!":lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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