JosipZG Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 najbolje je onda zavarit wg pa nek fila dok se ne razleti :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinci Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 kupiti ću ti ja ako hoćeš pa ti pošaljem :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Ma snac cu se nekako.. u najgorem slucaju kod kojeg mehanicara cu nac oprugu od zadnjih kocnica (bubanj) Kako Hans kaze :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luky Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Kako je tocno cuje kad pusta opruga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megane Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Kako je tocno cuje kad pusta opruga? psssssssss, tak nekak :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luky Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) Ne zajebavaj.. Jer meni se nekad cuje neki zvuk kad stisnem full gas u npr 4. brzini na 2500-3000 rpm, i tad se cuje s-s-s-s-s, znaci na neke prekide i onda kad predje 4000 rpm ne cuje se nis.. puni dobro sve. I tad kad se to cuje auto puni i ide, ali napred se cuje to.. Edited April 7, 2015 by Luky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag_steer Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 to je normalno, to se wg nastelava logic: za 2.0 tfsi ima u vcdsu blok za provjeravat wg, ne znam da li moze za 1.8t, grupa 114 ako se dobro sjecam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 To je surge i nije normalno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Uglavnom s oprugom se dobije samo nagli porast tlaka u niskima.. tak da je vec dolje.. na 6000 je visi cak tlak bez opruge Tak da vozim se dalje normalno i skupljam za turbo :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag_steer Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) nije surge u ovom slucaju... cuje se na previse auta, cak i stage 2 k04. ja sam bio siguran da je surge ali nakon par topica izgleda da nije... npr ovo: In a typical PID Control Loop, the response time is shortened by allowing a slight overshoot then equalizing effect after the equilibrium (or requested value) has been met. This moment is the overboost spike and following venting of the wastegate to prevent surging, but allowing enough flow to maintain the given pressure value. The "flutter" noise you hear is merely this venting and slight turbulent air in the compressor outlet. However, if your entire car is surging back and forth, then I'd look into a broken N75. treba vidjet da li boost ide gore dolje da li varira.. kod mene je stabilan. ne kazem da ne moze bit surge.. ali nebi smio bit Edited April 7, 2015 by Drag_steer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Treba se čuti ću ću ću ću )) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar001 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Ne zajebavaj.. Jer meni se nekad cuje neki zvuk kad stisnem full gas u npr 4. brzini na 2500-3000 rpm, i tad se cuje s-s-s-s-s, znaci na neke prekide i onda kad predje 4000 rpm ne cuje se nis.. puni dobro sve. I tad kad se to cuje auto puni i ide, ali napred se cuje to.. slicna stavr i meni kao neko pištanje ? prvo sam mislio da pušta tlak negdje al nije, dal je moguce da wastegate prejako našpanan ili šta ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luky Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 To je surge i nije normalno. Ne znam jel to surge, nebi rekao.. ugl ne cuje se bas svaki put.. ali iz nizih okretaja kad se poklopi gas.. I ja sam ga isto cuo na dosta TFSI.. Trebalo bi odradit log da se vidi? nije surge u ovom slucaju... cuje se na previse auta, cak i stage 2 k04. ja sam bio siguran da je surge ali nakon par topica izgleda da nije... npr ovo: In a typical PID Control Loop, the response time is shortened by allowing a slight overshoot then equalizing effect after the equilibrium (or requested value) has been met. This moment is the overboost spike and following venting of the wastegate to prevent surging, but allowing enough flow to maintain the given pressure value. The "flutter" noise you hear is merely this venting and slight turbulent air in the compressor outlet. However, if your entire car is surging back and forth, then I'd look into a broken N75. treba vidjet da li boost ide gore dolje da li varira.. kod mene je stabilan. ne kazem da ne moze bit surge.. ali nebi smio bit Ma ja sam to cuo na svakom koji ima usis, a da nije serijski.. Meni auto ide full dobro, pa nisam radio log niti ista.. posalji mi na pm tocno kako da napravim log u vcds pa cu kad dodjem kuci.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag_steer Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 imas previse stvari na vcdsu, a nemam ga doma da ti mogu rec koji blok je za sta ali pise ti sve tamo kad ga otvoris. ja obicno stavim actual i requested boost, lambda afr (0.8,0.9 budu vrijendosti), rpm, maf (onaj u g/s jedinici) al ima toga koliko oces.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luky Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 imas previse stvari na vcdsu, a nemam ga doma da ti mogu rec koji blok je za sta ali pise ti sve tamo kad ga otvoris. ja obicno stavim actual i requested boost, lambda afr (0.8,0.9 budu vrijendosti), rpm, maf (onaj u g/s jedinici) al ima toga koliko oces.. Pa tih 4-5 vrijednosti sam i mislio.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeljko_M Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Forge ima za kupit za 1.8t aktuator bas radi tog problema Isto kao i entuzijast cujem kako boost bjezi u auspuh kroz wg. Mi se cini da ti bjeze ispusni plinovi a ne boost?! Je puno posla skinuti taj aktuator i ispitati ga na stolu, pa mozda i usporediti sa novim (identicnim) aktuatorom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) 002 - maf 020 - zakretanje paljenja po cilindrima (ako je sve uredu onda je 0) 115 - requested i actual boost. Oduzmes tlak koji ti piše u četvrtom polju dok je auto ugasen i onda podijelis sa 1000 da bi dobio tlak u barima Tako je bar na 1.8t Imaš na vcds stranicama za većinu auti.. mislim da za tfsi imaš i na APR stranicama cijeli postupak objasnjen Kako misliš da mi bježe ispušni plinovi? Pa ja cijelo vrijeme govorim da mi ispušni plinovi bježe na wg jer je aktuator slab. I radi toga imam manji tlak/protok Baš i nije jednostavno skinuti aktuator Edited April 7, 2015 by Logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarinRi Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Ne zajebavaj.. Jer meni se nekad cuje neki zvuk kad stisnem full gas u npr 4. brzini na 2500-3000 rpm, i tad se cuje s-s-s-s-s, znaci na neke prekide i onda kad predje 4000 rpm ne cuje se nis.. puni dobro sve. I tad kad se to cuje auto puni i ide, ali napred se cuje to.. Kad se adaptira doći će na robertovo ću ću :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Uglavnom s oprugom se dobije samo nagli porast tlaka u niskima.. tak da je vec dolje.. na 6000 je visi cak tlak bez opruge Tak da vozim se dalje normalno i skupljam za turbo :lol: Ako dobro skuzio sto zelis reci, dobio veci overboost, a gore manji boost? Prvo je ocekivano, ali ovo drugo bas i nije. btw veci protok zraka ne znaci nuzno veca snaga, jer zbog BP raste negativan rad motora(dok gura plinove van). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Sad sam malo poslozio sve u tablicama kako treba, sa pravim tlakom itd.. senzor je ocitavao 920 milibara kad je auto ugasen tako da sam to oduzeo od vrijednosti kad turbo puni i podijelio sa 1000 da dobijem tlak u barima Znaci prvo sam probao logirat sa oprugom, a nakon toga bez bolje je ali imam prevelik overboost tako da sam skinuo oprugu da me klipnjaca nebi pozdravila plus kaj je pitanje koliko bi turbo trajao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Probaj ostaviti tu dodatnu oprugu, ali produži polugu aktuatora za dva tri navoja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Budem vidio dal mogu uopce do njega.. Sad bas citam da drugi znaju stavit mbc il mbc u kombinaciji s n75 (regulacija tlaka) da bi smanjili overboost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Budem vidio dal mogu uopce do njega..Sad bas citam da drugi znaju stavit mbc il mbc u kombinaciji s n75 (regulacija tlaka) da bi smanjili overboost A nitko se ne sjeti promjentii n75 tablicu. btw zar se taj ecu ne prilagodava novim uvjetima ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Pa prilagođava se.. pogotovo n75.. samo sta ja imam n75j reviziju koja je dosta agresivnija i u kombinaciji sa oprugom daje previse overboosta Danas cu pokusat sa orginalnim.. mislim da doma imam jednog Ovo je sa orginalnim n75 prije opruge I nakon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 The N75J K H valves cause the turbo to over boost to give the feeling of a BIGGER kick of power, for everyone not running the OEM N75 stock or mapped can you do some logs and post your results up? Plot of an AUM with N75C valve as you can see the boost plots are following the remap requested levels, which is correct to the mapping and is correct. Same car same mapping BUT with the N75J fitted now over boosts to 2270Mb from the requested 2000mb... Just a quick cheat to make power, but the ecu will soon learn over time, so when you first fit the J the boost kicks hard, then over a period of time will end up where it should be. (until battery disconected or adaptions reset) It would be cheaper and better to change the max load map from 157% to 174% in the mapping to take the requested boot to 2270mb instead of adding a and uncontrolled boost spike? The H J K valves are designed for the K04 turbos the C F E are for the k03/s turbos. Edit H J K designed for bigger slower spooling turbos such as the ko4, and C F E smaller quicker spooling turbos or car with high dc n75 maps) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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