444IN Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Ajde evo jedne normalne teme prigodne ide zima pa da cujem sta vi mislite. Dakle koksara prepuna opreme kojekakvih elektronika pocela mi ujutro samo na prvom paljenju bacat neke tiltove po tabli. Kasnije tokom dana pali najnormalnije sve stima. VW servis kaze aku prazan vamo tamo sve testiraju da negdje ne vuce sve u redu i dobro daj novi, E sad, stavili novi auto opet isto. Nis reko moram opet ja gruntat i vidim sad su stavili EFB aku a bio je AGM i kolko ja znam nije mudro mijenjat tako sa EFB ako je bio u auto na AGM ajmo rec apgrejd moze ali ako je bio AGM mora ic AGM. I mene sad kopka da nije u tom osto problem. Kak se to vama cini? Jednostavno da to ne pase na taj auto jer sad su to kodiranja i sva cua potrebna. VW tvrdoglavi njima to nudi kao opciju i oni dalje ne vide to stavili ja im maloprije tamo objasnjavam nije isto ovo ono i sad smo na ledu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroky Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Ak je taj efb obicni akumulator, krepat ce za par mjeseci. Ako je bio agm, agm treba opet stavit i prijavit ga u auto (bar je na bmw-u tak) Imao obicni umjesto agm-a na golfu, krepao za 6mj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
444IN Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 A nike efb obicni ali nije agm njima ga u programu nudi kao jeftiniju varijantu. Ak je taj efb obicni akumulator, krepat ce za par mjeseci. Ako je bio agm, agm treba opet stavit i prijavit ga u auto (bar je na bmw-u tak) Imao obicni umjesto agm-a na golfu, krepao za 6mj...Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND4SPD Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 39 minutes ago, 444IN said: A nike efb obicni ali nije agm njima ga u programu nudi kao jeftiniju varijantu. Kako to mislis nije obicni EFB? Evo kaj Yuasa kaze po tom pitanju: YBX7000 EFB Batteries Features Approximately 270,000 starts For lower specification Start/Stop vehicles Sealed tip/tilt double lid - Reduces water loss by up to 30% - VDA roll over test compliant* High charge acceptance envelope type separators and anti-sulphation technology Carbon/Lithium plate additives Integrated flame arrestor OE Quality, Performance & Specification *German Association of the Automotive Industry Performance - compared to conventional automotive batteries +170% improved Dynamic Charge Acceptance (DCA) +100% increased cyclic durability https://www.yuasa.it/batteries/automotive/ybx7000-efb-batteries.html YBX9000 AGM Batteries Features Approximately 360,000 starts For high specification Start/Stop vehicles Absorbed Glass Mat construction with no free acid Double lid (Leak/spill proof) VRLA Integrated flame arrestor OE Quality, Performance & Specification Performance - Compared to Conventional Automotive Batteries +150% improved Dynamic Charge Acceptance (DCA) +200% increased cyclic durability https://www.yuasa.it/batteries/automotive/ybx9000-agm-batteries.html AGM & EFB Automotive Batteries Explained https://www.yuasa.it/en/information/automotive-commercial-leisure-marine/agm-efb-automotive-batteries-explained/ Q. What are the differences between EFB and AGM batteries? A. EFB batteries have been introduced as a lower tier option to AGM batteries in terms of performance and durability. EFB technology relies on improvements to existing flooded technology through the addition of Carbon additives in the plate manufacturing process. AGM batteries benefit from the inclusion of unique design features not found in wet-flooded batteries. These include glass mat separators, recombinant lid technology and higher pack pressures to facilitate improved cyclic lifespan. AGM batteries are better suited to meeting the demands of higher specification vehicles that include one or more of the following technologies: Start Stop, Regenerative Braking and Passive Boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
444IN Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 A frende ti i tvoje kopi pejstanje vjecno pa nije obicni da ali nike AGM Kako to mislis nije obicni EFB? Evo kaj Yuasa kaze po tom pitanju: YBX7000 EFB Batteries Features Approximately 270,000 starts For lower specification Start/Stop vehicles Sealed tip/tilt double lid - Reduces water loss by up to 30% - VDA roll over test compliant* High charge acceptance envelope type separators and anti-sulphation technology Carbon/Lithium plate additives Integrated flame arrestor OE Quality, Performance & Specification *German Association of the Automotive Industry Performance - compared to conventional automotive batteries +170% improved Dynamic Charge Acceptance (DCA) +100% increased cyclic durability https://www.yuasa.it/batteries/automotive/ybx7000-efb-batteries.html YBX9000 AGM Batteries Features Approximately 360,000 starts For high specification Start/Stop vehicles Absorbed Glass Mat construction with no free acid Double lid (Leak/spill proof) VRLA Integrated flame arrestor OE Quality, Performance & Specification Performance - Compared to Conventional Automotive Batteries +150% improved Dynamic Charge Acceptance (DCA) +200% increased cyclic durability https://www.yuasa.it/batteries/automotive/ybx9000-agm-batteries.html AGM & EFB Automotive Batteries Explained https://www.yuasa.it/en/information/automotive-commercial-leisure-marine/agm-efb-automotive-batteries-explained/ Q. What are the differences between EFB and AGM batteries? A. EFB batteries have been introduced as a lower tier option to AGM batteries in terms of performance and durability. EFB technology relies on improvements to existing flooded technology through the addition of Carbon additives in the plate manufacturing process. AGM batteries benefit from the inclusion of unique design features not found in wet-flooded batteries. These include glass mat separators, recombinant lid technology and higher pack pressures to facilitate improved cyclic lifespan. AGM batteries are better suited to meeting the demands of higher specification vehicles that include one or more of the following technologies: Start Stop, Regenerative Braking and Passive Boost.Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND4SPD Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Just now, 444IN said: A frende ti i tvoje kopi pejstanje vjecno pa nije obicni da ali nike AGM A sto cu, ruka brza od mozga Ne znam kakav je to posebni EFB, nisam jos cuo za to, zato pitam... Nego, ajde vidi sto za tvoj model kaze katalog od Yuase i Exidea: https://www.yuasa.it/#lookup-manual-selection http://ows-cdn.tecdoc.net/exide/home.jsp?server=4&time=19/11/2018-18:43:13#b1ea24afdab83498548fa80fe6f82565 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
444IN Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 Ma EFB je ajmo rec poboljsan od obicnog da trpi ta govna od start stopa i izmislilii su ga kao.jeftinju varijantu a.koja.radi.Ali.kaze ako.je.AGM.bio.u autu onda bi trebalo.ic opet na.AGM A sto cu, ruka brza od mozga Ne znam kakav je to posebni EFB, nisam jos cuo za to, zato pitam... Nego, ajde vidi sto za tvoj model kaze katalog od Yuase i Exidea: https://www.yuasa.it/#lookup-manual-selection http://ows-cdn.tecdoc.net/exide/home.jsp?server=4&time=19/11/2018-18:43:13#b1ea24afdab83498548fa80fe6f82565Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND4SPD Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 47 minutes ago, 444IN said: Ma EFB je ajmo rec poboljsan od obicnog da trpi ta govna od start stopa i izmislilii su ga kao.jeftinju varijantu a.koja.radi.Ali.kaze ako.je.AGM.bio.u autu onda bi trebalo.ic opet na.AGM Tako vec da... Pravo pitanje je u kojem to katalogu oni gledaju, ako je original AGM i ako u ostalim katalozima pise da ide AGM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
444IN Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, ND4SPD said: Tako vec da... Pravo pitanje je u kojem to katalogu oni gledaju, ako je original AGM i ako u ostalim katalozima pise da ide AGM... Ma to je po VW ovo kad je autop 4+ godine star onda imaju popust na dijelove kuis vamo tamo neam pojma i tu im nudi po etki ili sta vec gleda tamo da ide taj aku i skuplji koji je AGM. Ali kao moze i ovaj jeftiniji pa stave taj kad je auto 4+. No kad gledas katalog i Varte koja je prva ugradnja i Bosch i tak dalje nudit ce ti za taj auto samo AGM varijantu nis drugo i kod nekakvih uputa kod zamjene kaze da ako je u autu bio AGM da treba ic AGM natrag a ako je bio EFB onda moze ic na AGM kao neki upgrade ako se bas hoce naravno uz uvjet da se tocno skodira to tamo upise. I da eo Yuasa i Exide kazu mora ic AGM natrag kao i Bosch i Varta Edited November 19, 2018 by 444IN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrga Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Ja na scenicu imam EFB ..bas sam jucer pogledao di mu je akumulator i koji je ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puki Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 20 hours ago, 444IN said: Ajde evo jedne normalne teme prigodne ide zima pa da cujem sta vi mislite. Dakle koksara prepuna opreme kojekakvih elektronika pocela mi ujutro samo na prvom paljenju bacat neke tiltove po tabli. Kasnije tokom dana pali najnormalnije sve stima. VW servis kaze aku prazan vamo tamo sve testiraju da negdje ne vuce sve u redu i dobro daj novi, E sad, stavili novi auto opet isto. Nis reko moram opet ja gruntat i vidim sad su stavili EFB aku a bio je AGM i kolko ja znam nije mudro mijenjat tako sa EFB ako je bio u auto na AGM ajmo rec apgrejd moze ali ako je bio AGM mora ic AGM. I mene sad kopka da nije u tom osto problem. Kak se to vama cini? Jednostavno da to ne pase na taj auto jer sad su to kodiranja i sva cua potrebna. VW tvrdoglavi njima to nudi kao opciju i oni dalje ne vide to stavili ja im maloprije tamo objasnjavam nije isto ovo ono i sad smo na ledu. Razlika ti je u tehnologiji i podnošenju ciklusa punjenja i pražnjenja.. agm je otporniji od efb dok klasicnine podnosi takve cikluse punjenja i praznjenja i pucaju veze te krepa. nije greska staviti ...vise je do kupca i cijene.. ako ce ti trebati Banner po dobroj cijeni koji je u dosta prvih ugradnji vw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semper Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Mislim da ti je stvar pada napona, a ne amburator. "zapamti" pad i drzi gresku, tak pezo, ne znam kako je kod premium vozila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
444IN Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 Mislim da ti je stvar pada napona, a ne amburator. "zapamti" pad i drzi gresku, tak pezo, ne znam kako je kod premium vozilaA izgleda isto.Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xman Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Koliko su ti uzeli za taj jeftiniji? Cca 1300 je AGM u ovlaštenom i meni su to stavili kad su mjenjali aku, nije me nitko nit pitao dal' hocu neku b opciju. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
444IN Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 Koliko su ti uzeli za taj jeftiniji? Cca 1300 je AGM u ovlaštenom i meni su to stavili kad su mjenjali aku, nije me nitko nit pitao dal' hocu neku b opciju.Ma AGM kod njih 2670 ovaj bio 1300.Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolt Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Pa cekaj, sta ne mogu po broju šasije auta vidjet sta je stavljeno unutra il nesto slicno? Imas stari aku, pa na njemu pise neki P/N .... Sta je ovo, svi auti stari 4 godine krepavaju aku, evo na 3-4 auta u zadnja 2 mjeseca krepali aku, Golf, audi, audi.... 27 minutes ago, 444IN said: Ma AGM kod njih 2670 ovaj bio 1300. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk Jucer u zubak frend zvao za a3 sportback, aku 3800 kn .... reko top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
444IN Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, tolt said: Pa cekaj, sta ne mogu po broju šasije auta vidjet sta je stavljeno unutra il nesto slicno? Imas stari aku, pa na njemu pise neki P/N .... Sta je ovo, svi auti stari 4 godine krepavaju aku, evo na 3-4 auta u zadnja 2 mjeseca krepali aku, Golf, audi, audi.... Jucer u zubak frend zvao za a3 sportback, aku 3800 kn .... reko top Ha to je problem oni ne znaju nit ih zanima sta je i kakav je koji aku njemu po broju sasije nudi i jedan i drugi. Dok ni jedan proizvodjac akumulatora ne daje u svijim.katalozima da ides ako ti je bio AGM na EFB nego samo nude i jos je napomena da se ide na AGM obavezno. Frendu ti nude AGM vjerovatno cim je ta cijena samo nek ga ne kupi tamo jer je to ludost. Svuda su oko 1200-300 kuna i to najskuplji samo ovlasteni za njih dere ovako. Bezveze platit. Jedino se mora otic upisat sad dali u ovlasteni ili kod nekog ovako ko ima VCDS nije neka nauka. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk Edited November 21, 2018 by 444IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolt Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 To znam, sad gleda sta ce uzet, ima start stop pa gleda AGM ili EFB .... upisat to unutar i to je to .... al stvarno pretjeruju s tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
444IN Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 To znam, sad gleda sta ce uzet, ima start stop pa gleda AGM ili EFB .... upisat to unutar i to je to .... al stvarno pretjeruju s tim. Pa da, ak mu je stari agm nek uzme agm trebalo bi radit i ovo ali ja bi stavio kak je bilo prvo.Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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