ZOD Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 kad završim sve odemo na cugu :thumbsup: Nema problema :thumbsup:
vesko Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 a kakvog ste misljenja o JE Piston??? Moje preporuka. Uzmeš Je Piston i Pauter klipnjače i nećeš sigurno pogriješit u odabiru :thumbsup:
killercivic Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 pa killer je vrtio svoju b16 kovanu na 9500 na serijskim bregastima, naravno imo je dobre aftermarket ventile i opruge b16 stock motor, blokada stavljenja u kompu na 10000okr to je po cajgeru više jel obrtomjer laže za nekih 400 okretaja. par puta stisnuo do blokade, jest da ne razvija snagu i nema smisla. al osim oblaka dima ništa se drugo nije desilo stock fiat tempra 1.6S fergazer bez problema na 9000 svaki put, pri tome je najveća buka bila iz getribe. e sad fauve, digo liku na njegov zahtjev blokadu na ABF motoru na 7500 okretaja, i nakon 3 mjeseca mu se raspo motor. LOOOOOL .. i još je kao bila glava rađena.
KIMI_1.8T Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Evo tebi kao "strucnjaku" jedno pitanje: Koji motor ima vecu brzinu klipova: ABF na 7500 o/min, ili B16 na 9000 o/min??:naughty: O tezini klipova, radilice, zamasnjaka, klipnjaca,..... ovaj put necu ni pricati.
charger Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) 1. Honda S2000: Engine Code: F20C1 Bore/Stroke: 3.43" X 3.31" Redline: 9000rpm Piston Speed: 4965 Ft/min 2. Lamborghini Gallardo Engine Code: N/A Bore/Stroke: 3.25" X 3.65" Redline: 8000rpm Piston Speed: 4866.67 Ft/min 3. Acura Integra Type R Engine Code: B18C5 Bore/Stroke: 3.19" X 3.43" Redline: 8400rpm Piston Speed: 4802 Ft/min 4. BMW M3 Engine Code: S54 Bore/Stroke: 3.43" X 3.58" Redline: 8000rpm Piston Speed: 4773.33 Ft/min 5. Honda S2000 2004 Engine Code: F22C Bore/Stroke: 3.43" X 3.57" Redline: 8000rpm Piston Speed: 4760 Ft/min 6. Honda Integra Type R (JDM) Engine Code: K20A Bore/Stroke: 3.39" X 3.39" Redline: 8400rpm Piston Speed: 4746 Ft/min 7. Acura Integra GSR 2001 Engine Code: B18C Bore/Stroke: 3.19" X 3.43" Redline: 8200rpm Piston Speed: 4687.67 Ft/min 8. Saleen S7 Engine Code: N/A Bore/Stroke: 4.13" X 4.00" Redline: 7000rpm Piston Speed: 4666.67 Ft/min 9. Acura TSX Engine Code: K24A2 Bore/Stroke: 3.43" X 3.90" Redline: 7100rpm Piston Speed: 4615 Ft/min 10. Suzuki Hayabusa Sport Prototype Engine Code: W701 Bore/Stroke: 3.19" X 2.48" Redline: 11000rpm Piston Speed: 4546.67 Ft/min 11. Honda Civic Type R Engine Code: B16B Bore/Stroke: 3.19" X 3.03" Redline: 9000rpm Piston Speed: 4545 Ft/min 12. Toyota Celica GTS / Matrix XRS 2001 Engine Code: 2ZZ-GE Bore/Stroke: 3.23" X 3.35" Redline: 8100rpm Piston Speed: 4522.5 Ft/min 13. Honda Prelude Type S (JDM) Engine Code: H22A Bore/Stroke: 3.43" X 3.57" Redline: 7500rpm Piston Speed: 4462.5 Ft/min 14. Acura RSX Type S Engine Code: K20A2 Bore/Stroke: 3.38" X 3.38" Redline: 7900rpm Piston Speed: 4450.33 Ft/min 15. Ferrari 360 Modena (incl. Challenge, Stradale, etc) Engine Code: N/A Bore/Stroke: 3.35" X 3.11" Redline: 8500rpm Piston Speed: 4405.83 Ft/min aktualna lista top 15 motora po brzini klipa u stock formatu prepuna lista VW motora DOH Edited October 29, 2010 by charger
KIMI_1.8T Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Ma, ........................... zaboravite.:doh: I ja sam naso s kim cu polemizirat.:doh:
KIMI_1.8T Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Pa objasni nam Pojasnite si sami. Kako se izracunava brzina klipova svakog pojedinog motora? Npr. ABF 92,8 mm hod na 7500 o/min,.... Koja je brzina klipa?
Alfaludak Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 neznam ja te stvari pa koliko ima onda stock fiat motor na 7700 ako ima 84 bore 92 stroke
fire Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Pojasnite si sami.Kako se izracunava brzina klipova svakog pojedinog motora? Npr. ABF 92,8 mm hod na 7500 o/min,.... Koja je brzina klipa? a duljina klipnjace?
KIMI_1.8T Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 neznam ja te stvari pa koliko ima onda stock fiat motor na 7700 ako ima 84 bore 92 stroke 23,6 m/sek:)
KIMI_1.8T Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 a duljina klipnjace? Pri izracunu brzine klipova, nema nikakav utjecaj.:no2: U nekim drugim stvarima ima dosta utjecaja.
fire Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Pri izracunu brzine klipova, nema nikakav utjecaj.:no2:U nekim drugim stvarima ima dosta utjecaja. Sigurno? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piston_motion_equations
KIMI_1.8T Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Sigurno?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piston_motion_equations Ovo su kutne brzine, fire. Pricamo o srednjoj vrijednosti brzine,....... 1 okretaj, put gore - dolje u jedinici vremena.
fire Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 a, tu pricate o srednjoj brzini klipa. Skoro pa beskorisan podatak. Nisam vidio dobro. Zbunila me chargerova mjera, jer je u 1min, a ne u 1s. Pa mi je letimicno izgledalo da se prica o najvecoj brzini.
kutija Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) hebo srednju brzinu ako najveca prelazi 25-26 m/s pogotovo na nekom "normalnom" autu koji nema ogranicen budget ... F1 ima 27 m/s u crvenom... Ovdje dolazi do izrazaja rod ratio i sto je veca najveca brzina klipa trebali bi se koristit sto laksi klipovi i klipnjace ako se zeli da to traje imalo Uglavnom dosta varijabli ima i nema univerzalnog rjesenja nego ovisno o svakom slucaju zasebno pa prema tome treba i odabrat ... a tu onda igra rod ratio Edited October 29, 2010 by kutija
KIMI_1.8T Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) Naravno da je rod ratio itekako bitan. Sto je veci, to ce i odaziv na vecim okretajima biti bolji, i obratno. Jos bitnija stvar je hod kao i bore to stroke ratio koji je kod F1 motora oko 2,5.. F1 motor ima oko 40mm hod i rod ratio preko 2,1. A o masama, sta reci,.....kad cijeli motor (V8) od F1 ima manje od 100kg. Edited October 30, 2010 by KIMI_1.8T
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