Drag_steer Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Jendo pitanje teoretsko..da vidim mozda neko imao slican problem ovdje. 2.0 TFSI, 2008 god, onaj sa 200 ks serijskih, 80 000 km, revo stg3, 3 bobine su prve jos uvjek, jedna crkla.. na cetvrtom cilindru. nakon toga zamjenjena, i crkla nakon mj dana. nije skroz crkla, nego kad bi se par puta stisnulo jace, onda bi poceo trokirat. zamjenjena svjecica i bobina na istom cilindru. nakon par dana opet ista stvar, prvih nekoliko stiskanja gasa sve super, nakon tog pocme trokirat opet, pod gasom, na srednjim okretajima. i ode bobina. bobine sigurno odu, jer kad je stavim na drugi cilindar, na njemu javlja missfire.. Sta moze bit? krivi zazor svjecica? unisten/los kabel za tu bobinu? nedovoljno jako zavidane svjecice? previse advance timing? svjecice su bkr7eix, hladnije od originalnih.. tlak je oko 1.4 bara najveci, afr je na punom gasu 11.8-12 Edited February 12, 2015 by Drag_steer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 negdje struja jebe ,mozda negdje šlusa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag_steer Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 mislsi na kabelu od tog cilindra? oonaj kao rail plasticni za kabele od bobina..ima lijevo i desno idu zice dolje.. sad koja je za sta nemam pojma.. moguce da je zica malo ostecena jer je blizu turbine. jel se mogu mjenjat te zice/harnes od bobina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 mogu se mjenjat al mislim da idu u kompletu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Kako sam ti vec napisao kad smo se culi probaj sad po hladnom vremenu stavit orginal svjecice a ne hladnije. Jako puno ljudi s 2.0 tfsi ima problem s "missfire-om" kad su na hladnijim svjecicama po hladnom vremenu.. cim je zahladilo i mene na 1.8t je to jebalo. Stavio sam orginal i sve 5 Mislim da je i Mario S3 pisao nesto o tome Predetonation occurs: -deposits in the combustion chamber causing hotspots and incorrect heat range spark plugs. -If it is "too hot", too much heat is still on the spark plug which causes predetonation -timing is too advanced -octane too low with the spark plugs, the key note is the heat range. A lot of people like to use colder spark plugs when they go increase the boost. The downside is during the winter, being too cold, the plugs will foul easily which causes misfiring. Edited February 13, 2015 by Raptor6767 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joo Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 pa jedno glupo pitanje, ali jesi provjerio da ti mozda ne curi ulje na taj cilindar, tj od poklopca ventila i sliva se unutra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar001 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Isti problem imam i ja, znači kad ubrzavam i drzim pun gas sve ok, ali ako poklopim gas i pustim na cca 3500 auto stroka, nekad je znao i ostat radit na tri cilindra. sve živo sam probo, jedno 3 seta svječica sam probo, od hladnijih, od platinum, do običnih NGK i stalno isto, Bobine koje koristim su od TFSI onda sam uzeo od frenda sa 1,8t pola orginal bobine i u 5 km sam mu skurio jednu bobinu vratio ove TFSI i radi ali opet nekad stroka Promjenio sam komplet instalaciju, NIJE pomoglo sad sam naručio 4 nove NGK bobine od TFSI koje kažu da su najbolje, pa ćemo vidjet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoT5 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Da nije mozda problem u masi? Trebala bi biti jedna zica koja se sarafi na poklopac ventila. Barem je volvo tako imao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Pero prodaj to govno i dođi po AUTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 vw ima problema s instlacijom(izolacija zica zeza) pa se znaju dodirivati zice. Ove bobine nove sto stavio, jer su to org ili zamjena? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar001 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Pero prodaj to govno i dođi po AUTO Heheh po koji to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuminati Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 focus st za €6500.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlado206 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 vw ima problema s instlacijom(izolacija zica zeza) pa se znaju dodirivati zice. Ove bobine nove sto stavio, jer su to org ili zamjena? Koje idu original? Meni su za tsi nudili beru, bosch i valeo čini mi se... Kad su mi trebale naravno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag_steer Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Original bobine sam stavio svaki put. Znaci moze se promjenit instalacija 'kablovi od svjecica' kompletna? Petar: tebi random bobine odu ili na 1 cil? Znaci voznja malo brza gradska i sve ok, cim odes treca cetvrta pun gas, bobina ode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario_S3 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Svječice su ok, te imam ja, nikada problema - i imam prve bobine, a auto ima 80kkm. Zazor na svječicama je tvornički, nikad ne mijenjam. Negdje nešto ne valja sa kablovima ili možda nešto što nema veze sa strujom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag_steer Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Mozda su kablovi otisli jer su dosta blizu turba.. Vidim da iz bobina idu kablovi ljevo i desno.. di je masa za bobine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar001 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Meni ti nema veze koja brzina. U prvoj nek poklopim gas malo boost nek dodje pustim gas kao da pukne i stroka. A recimo odem van grada kad drzim pun gas ili pola gasa a auto ubrzava nikakvih problema nema Svjecice 1,2,3 nist a Bobine stavio orgina 1.8t jos gore na tfsi je malo bolje Promjenio instalaciju bobina od kompa do bobina - nije rijesilo problem Sad cekam 4 nove NGK bobine koje idu na audi r8 Pa cu probat te nove i kombinirat svjecice da vidim sta ce bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 btw neispravan comp moze isto skuriti bobine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario_S3 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 btw neispravan comp moze isto skuriti bobine. I to, ak je bio otvaran kao moj bivši npr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 btw neispravan comp moze isto skuriti bobine. Ili ako se netko igrao sa dwell time-om u configu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxx Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Sto se tice Misfire-a dosta ovisi i o gap-u svjecica,sto se gura veci boost gap mora biti manji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 imao sam org imao sam bkr 8 pa bkr 7 nikada nisam dirao gap na svjecici i nikada nije bilo problema niti na org mapi niti na st2+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Sto se tice Misfire-a dosta ovisi i o gap-u svjecica,sto se gura veci boost gap mora biti manji. Gap na ispravnim bobinama se ne mora dirati ispod 2bara boosta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag_steer Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Danas stavio zazor na 0.7mm, stegnuo ih na 26nm. Ic cu vidjet jos neke stvari sa vcds.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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